Wordpress does appear to be a bit easier, but Joomla is far more flexible and customizable. Do you want the most powerful solution, or the easiest to manage?
*there's no difference between a blog and a website; joomla is a content management platform, wordpress is a content management platform. The latter is geared towards bloggers, the former towards those who need to not just blog, but manage digital assets for multiple users across various user roles with the addition of workflow rules.
I think the line between "blogs" and "websites" has blurred somewhat in recent times. Partially due to the fact that so many "websites" incorporate a blog (although they might disguise it behind the title 'news').
I must say that I found WordPress much easier to get into than Joomla. However I could of course be missing out by not becoming familiar with Joomla.
Well, unfortunately I can't really comment on Joomla's capabilities in that requirement listing there. I do know that I'd probably be able to sort all that out on WordPress, but then again I've been using WP intensively for the past year and a half or longer.
If you are looking to do a portal - conventional definition of one is a page that allows users to customize portlets of information aggregated from various websites - then joomla is a possible solution there, though there are other ways to go about doing so that might not be as "heavy."
Now, if you are looking to make your own news portal where people come to, then you can go the beefy blog route with Movable Type, or do something like Joomla and scale it down some. Again though, MT and Joomla have their strengths in not what they serve, but how they administer content management across users with differing levels of access and responsibility.
They're on alpha6 of ver1 of BBpress. I wish they'd spend a bit more time developing it - would be nice to see integration with WP much tighter - essentially so it would almost just act as a plugin for WP.
Also, the wordpress user integration has greatly improved, and I've heard it's even better with ver1. Once you register as either a wp user or a bb user, you're on the system once and it carries for the main site or the forum.
Hmm. You know what might be an interesting experiment. Write a single post with all your requirements and post it on WordPress/Joomla/Movable Type forums and see what sort of response you get :)
Well, user management is a little weaker IMO. Although I don't know the others very well. There are plugins that greatly improve the potential functionality though (Role Manager is one of those - and I use that a lot on client websites where I want to restrict the client to certain actions)
I tried using BBpress for one of my stealth sites, and I wasn't overly impressed. As mentioned, the development is extremely limited, and thus, there's also a minimal amount of support, addons, themes, etc. It's very much the 'wild west' feel where you end up needing to do it yourself, which for me, is a definite negative.
I've not used PHPbb3, but I'm using vBulletin for the Symbian-Guru Forum. vBulletin has great support, is being actively developed, and has a crapload of addons. However, you're also looking at a $200 lifetime licensing fee, which could be a major factor. The latest version, though, has adsense baked right in, so you could potentially make that $200 up rather quickly.
phpBB has the great features and largest user community but its design is so bad that maintenance is a nightmare. I don't know about the latest version but the version I used, installing any addon meant I just can't update without losing my changes.
SMF is decent free alternative. vBulletin is great if cost isn't an issue. bbPress has very few features.
I made a IM2SMS application for which I need a user management, I want to be a active symbian blogger, presently I use blogger which I dont like and forums
oh, well if you're looking to be another Symbian blogger, I'm through with this thread!!
Haha, J/K. :) I use vBulletin for S-G, and there's a mostly-nice Wordpress bridge available. Posts automatically have a corresponding Forum thread created, and comments are shown on both the thread and the wordpress post page.
The only current issue is that scheduled posts have a disconnect somewhere - I'm working on that myself.
users are ported, though there's not really much of a reason for them to be, as much as I can see, since there's no reason for them to be logged into the wordpress portion.
Also, I know the guys from http://www.tori.in/ which is an crowdsourcing type innovation platform running on top of Drupal. They have said only good things about it.
even if drupal doesn't make sense for a production stage website/blog, it is still rewarding to just install it on a test domain and play with it. It grows on you over time and you get addicted to it.
ok, here is my 0.02€. Start with Wordpress (it is easier, as it is more focused, and can be used as a basic CMS), then if you find that you are hitting the limits start looking at the CMS sytems (Joomla, Dupal, etc), because at that point you will know what you need from the system. Also the export format of WordPress is kind of a standard (i think most others can use it as an import pretty well)
Wonder why Movable Type isn't looked at; it does all that WP does, but has the strength in the user admin and forums that Joomla has... just wondering that's all.
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Wordpress. It's much easier :)
10 months ago by edythemighty
I run nokiAAddict on Wordpress and its easy to manage
10 months ago by gerrymoth
I checked out Joomla at one point - it seemed like it would be great for a website, whereas Wordpress is designed specifically for a blog.
10 months ago by rcadden
@edythemighty @gerrymoth thanks, I thinking to start a blog sort of stuff
10 months ago by arjun
Wordpress does appear to be a bit easier, but Joomla is far more flexible and customizable. Do you want the most powerful solution, or the easiest to manage?
10 months ago by PseudoFinn
most powerful solution
10 months ago by arjun
*there's no difference between a blog and a website; joomla is a content management platform, wordpress is a content management platform. The latter is geared towards bloggers, the former towards those who need to not just blog, but manage digital assets for multiple users across various user roles with the addition of workflow rules.
10 months ago by arjw
@rcadden makes a good point; blog vs. website.
10 months ago by PseudoFinn
ok I want some thing like a portal
10 months ago by arjun
not just a blog
10 months ago by arjun
I think the line between "blogs" and "websites" has blurred somewhat in recent times. Partially due to the fact that so many "websites" incorporate a blog (although they might disguise it behind the title 'news').
I must say that I found WordPress much easier to get into than Joomla. However I could of course be missing out by not becoming familiar with Joomla.
10 months ago by alexleonard
A portal. Hmm. Elaborate?
10 months ago by alexleonard
Blog, forums, custom pages
10 months ago by arjun
Well, unfortunately I can't really comment on Joomla's capabilities in that requirement listing there. I do know that I'd probably be able to sort all that out on WordPress, but then again I've been using WP intensively for the past year and a half or longer.
10 months ago by alexleonard
Better to go with Wordpress
10 months ago by ravvamahesh
If you are looking to do a portal - conventional definition of one is a page that allows users to customize portlets of information aggregated from various websites - then joomla is a possible solution there, though there are other ways to go about doing so that might not be as "heavy."
Now, if you are looking to make your own news portal where people come to, then you can go the beefy blog route with Movable Type, or do something like Joomla and scale it down some. Again though, MT and Joomla have their strengths in not what they serve, but how they administer content management across users with differing levels of access and responsibility.
10 months ago by arjw
That's a good point - what would your user management requirements be like?
10 months ago by alexleonard
yeah user management this is what joomla got. private messaging, access control r requried
10 months ago by arjun
how about Joomla + PHPBB3 + RokBridge
10 months ago by arjun
I assume you'd be wanting single registration to allow users anywhere in the site with the same "name" whether commenting or posting on a forum?
(I know BBpress has this working, but not sure how soon the full version 1 release is coming)
10 months ago by alexleonard
They're on alpha6 of ver1 of BBpress. I wish they'd spend a bit more time developing it - would be nice to see integration with WP much tighter - essentially so it would almost just act as a plugin for WP.
10 months ago by alexleonard
RokBridge Bridge between Joomla and PHPBB3
10 months ago by arjun
Ah right - that kind of answered my question. Should have looked it up first :)
Although I'm meant to be working...
10 months ago by alexleonard
Certainly something like phpbb3 would be much more full-featured and mature than bbpress. Although I do like the relative minimalness of bbpress.
10 months ago by alexleonard
bbpress is impressive
10 months ago by arjun
and it does seem to scale well (seeing as the massive WP support forums are run by it - although they may have that a bit modded)
10 months ago by alexleonard
Also, the wordpress user integration has greatly improved, and I've heard it's even better with ver1. Once you register as either a wp user or a bb user, you're on the system once and it carries for the main site or the forum.
10 months ago by alexleonard
bbpress is simple and clean. Now this make me more confused Joomla + PHPBB or Wordpress + bbpress
10 months ago by arjun
stay away from phpbb or your life will be ruined for ever.
10 months ago by tabrez
how about user management in wordpress
10 months ago by arjun
Damn. I hadn't planned on confusing things! :D
Hmm. You know what might be an interesting experiment. Write a single post with all your requirements and post it on WordPress/Joomla/Movable Type forums and see what sort of response you get :)
10 months ago by alexleonard
Well, user management is a little weaker IMO. Although I don't know the others very well. There are plugins that greatly improve the potential functionality though (Role Manager is one of those - and I use that a lot on client websites where I want to restrict the client to certain actions)
10 months ago by alexleonard
I tried using BBpress for one of my stealth sites, and I wasn't overly impressed. As mentioned, the development is extremely limited, and thus, there's also a minimal amount of support, addons, themes, etc. It's very much the 'wild west' feel where you end up needing to do it yourself, which for me, is a definite negative.
I've not used PHPbb3, but I'm using vBulletin for the Symbian-Guru Forum. vBulletin has great support, is being actively developed, and has a crapload of addons. However, you're also looking at a $200 lifetime licensing fee, which could be a major factor. The latest version, though, has adsense baked right in, so you could potentially make that $200 up rather quickly.
10 months ago by rcadden
@tabrez can you explain please
10 months ago by arjun
phpBB has the great features and largest user community but its design is so bad that maintenance is a nightmare. I don't know about the latest version but the version I used, installing any addon meant I just can't update without losing my changes.
SMF is decent free alternative. vBulletin is great if cost isn't an issue. bbPress has very few features.
10 months ago by tabrez
Had installed PHPBB3 and made my site based theme for it long back link
10 months ago by arjun
I made a IM2SMS application for which I need a user management, I want to be a active symbian blogger, presently I use blogger which I dont like and forums
10 months ago by arjun
oh, well if you're looking to be another Symbian blogger, I'm through with this thread!!
Haha, J/K. :) I use vBulletin for S-G, and there's a mostly-nice Wordpress bridge available. Posts automatically have a corresponding Forum thread created, and comments are shown on both the thread and the wordpress post page.
The only current issue is that scheduled posts have a disconnect somewhere - I'm working on that myself.
users are ported, though there's not really much of a reason for them to be, as much as I can see, since there's no reason for them to be logged into the wordpress portion.
10 months ago by rcadden
ok decided WordPress for blog, PHPBB3 for forums got a integration code for these. Thanks @all
10 months ago by arjun
Thanks
10 months ago by arjun
Best of luck!
10 months ago by alexleonard
How about drupal?
10 months ago by jsaarikko
@alexleonard thanks @jsaarikko never worked on it
10 months ago by arjun
@arjun: I'm getting familiar with drupal. Seems to have endless opportunities, but requires time to learn it.
10 months ago by jsaarikko
agree about the learning curve for drupal but it is an amazing piece of software.
10 months ago by tabrez
I'm on mobile...try google "sites designed with drupal"...oh some media sites from Fin Www.yle.fi www.uusisuomi.fi
10 months ago by jsaarikko
I worked on drupal 2 year ago I think. But now I don't remember anything about it. Anyway I have decided for wordpress.
10 months ago by arjun
Check http://www.drupalsites.net/
Also, I know the guys from http://www.tori.in/ which is an crowdsourcing type innovation platform running on top of Drupal. They have said only good things about it.
10 months ago by touqo
even if drupal doesn't make sense for a production stage website/blog, it is still rewarding to just install it on a test domain and play with it. It grows on you over time and you get addicted to it.
10 months ago by tabrez
@jsaarikko drupal made me think again, I cant bare this confusion. I ll just check this in the morning.
10 months ago by arjun
@markguim examples using drupal http://www.observer.com/ http://commercial-archive.com/ http://www.theonion.com/ http://www.goingon.com/
10 months ago by dabitch
I think someone already linked to this http://www.drupalsites.net/
10 months ago by tabrez
ok, here is my 0.02€. Start with Wordpress (it is easier, as it is more focused, and can be used as a basic CMS), then if you find that you are hitting the limits start looking at the CMS sytems (Joomla, Dupal, etc), because at that point you will know what you need from the system. Also the export format of WordPress is kind of a standard (i think most others can use it as an import pretty well)
this website http://php.opensourcecms.com/ seems to cover most of the opensource CMS and associated engines and this one is even longer http://guidecms.com/all-cms
10 months ago by ymb
Wonder why Movable Type isn't looked at; it does all that WP does, but has the strength in the user admin and forums that Joomla has... just wondering that's all.
10 months ago by arjw